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Mid-Pipes in California.....

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sdsubzero4

Spring Valley, CA
Ok, I went to JBA today to see about getting an H-pipe. Guess what, I was told that mid-pipes are no longer legal in California since January of this year. Shops cannot sell or install mid-pipes anymore. Have anyone heard of this? This is the first time I heard of it. WTF......!!!!! I'm starting to envy some of you who are moving away from California. I wish I can come along.

WTF is wrong with this state!!!!!!!!
 
Foxman

Foxman

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it has always been illegal to install a off road mid pipe by any shop... muffler shops and so on are not suppose to install anything that removes smog equipment...
 
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sdsubzero4

Spring Valley, CA
Foxman said:
it has always been illegal to install a off road mid pipe by any shop... muffler shops and so on are not suppose to install anything that removes smog equipment...
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That's including installing the cat back exhaust, not just O/R. Any mid pipes.
 
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Paul Huizenga

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I know that in the past, JBA has been under the microscope by the BAR for that sort of thing because they have a high profile. It's been their policy for a while now that if it doesn't show up on a trailer or flatbed, they won't do anything to the exhaust plumbing that's not smog legal. Hard to blame them...
 
Foxman

Foxman

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might have just been easier to tell you that... I really wouldnt pay anyone to do that work anyways... its very easy! and thats why we have a wickedstangs install garage!
 
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Ichiduo

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it's true. IF a shop will do it, it has to be under the table in CASH so they don't have a record of the service on their system.

i have a catted prochamber, but i know that putting that sucker on is illegal. cars now have to have the stock midpipe and air intake during inspection. unless you're running the k&n fipk system, cause that comes with a carb #.

heck i've seen some online shops / ebay stores not even ship midpipes to california. if you want a midpipe in california, it seems you have to get one out of state, or buy one off of someone else.
 
Superstang21

Superstang21

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Yeah I heard about this a little while ago.... It BS! It is illegal now to alter your stock cats. Inc high flow cats. I had plnned to be a good law abiding citizen when I built my car but in light of these new BS rule I think I will be installing an OR H/X pipe instead.
 
skidmarks

skidmarks

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i got long tubes...ooops! wanna hear some real BS? i have to pay $1000 bucks to fix my car because someone else hit me! go california! i cant wait to go back to ohio
 
Foxman

Foxman

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wow! that sucks! I'm glade they make alot of 5.0 state legal parts for my stang... headers mid pipes, cams, heads, intakes LOL! GO 5.0L!
 
Fighting Sailor

Fighting Sailor

San Angelo TX
I'm registering in Texas and installing long tubes! F*** this tree hugger Sh**! I am fed up w/ laws that really make no difference to actual emmissions. They just look good to enviro Nazis and so they go w/ it. I have been told that my Cold air intake will not pass smog when the time comes.... Even though it is the intake installed by shelby before I bought the car. So what the hell! I'm doin my car the way I want it. In the words of Braveheart; FREEDOM!!!!! The Ca inviro Nazis took away my Ferret, they are not dictating to me my CAR!!!!:rock:
 
LaughingGT

LaughingGT

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well i know i got stuff through breenspeed and they shiped it to me considering i get stuff sent to a fpao adress "aka" the hanger i dont think they can restrict that and i had a sho install my x pipe but it dident affect the cats it was the spice they just cut the h pipe off and instaned the x pipe no probliem bu they did ask for a recipt and they said no hahah so idk if ur military get ur car registered somewere else thats what im planning to do when i get the money to do, so go colorado
 
Foxman

Foxman

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what are you talking about tree huggers... I know cats dont hurt performance that much..AND IF YOU need your cats removed to make the power you want, your doing somthing WRONG!... your not making any REALLY HP numbers anyways, So you want to destroy the air of the FUTURE FOR 5 EXTRA HP!!!!!!! ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME!! have you heard of the O zone! NOx producing acid rain... come on man! HC are horrible to breath... I wish people like you could just move sense you dont care anyways!.. But i want my kids to have a nice place to live!
 
Foxman

Foxman

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PUT it this way.... I WILL BE running 10's on the BOTTLE with all 4 CATS ON MY CAR... you want to go fast... removing cats isn't what it takes!!!! Buy some real mods....!
 
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Paul Huizenga

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Hold on there... I'm old enough to remember what the air used to look like before new car emissions were brought under control, and every car I have is catted.

But, there's a distinction between effective pollution control and the appearance of effective pollution control.

Preventing somebody from making a modification that has no effect on tailpipe or evaporative emissions isn't effective pollution control. It is, however, far easier to enforce than a more rational law, like turning gross polluters around at the border, or scrapping ancient daily drivers built to outdated emissions standards. Even if NOTHING was done to enforce emissions laws, other than requiring new cars to meet current standards, the air would continue to get cleaner as the older, higher polluting cars drop out of the fleet.

But there's a huge government agency that exists only to enforce those regulations, and it must justify both existence and growth, and since the low-hanging fruit is all picked, they have to go to greater and greater extremes to do so.
 
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