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supercharger vs turbocharger

Sinful

Well-Known Member
My first turbo kit worked fine except the material sucked and the turbo mount kept on cracking. Not to mention the turbo unit was too big for the combo, and the head valve springs sucked too affecting hp. So it was a combination of issues and not of the turbo concept itself.
 

beejay31000

BULLWINKLE
but from what i hear all turbo kits out right now are like that. better R&D in superchargers make better results.
 

Sinful

Well-Known Member
Well I've had an s-trim v2, novi 2000, turbolocity turbo kit, hp turbo kit and cartech turbo kit. from personal experience turbo kits are better in making hp, tq, you don't need a belt from the motor to spin the turbine, they are easier on the motor under load and not many people havethem so they are typically unique.
 

beejay31000

BULLWINKLE
i like the uniqueness, and i think the BOV would be awesome on the street. strike fear into other drivers....and they sound awesome at WOT...
 

Sinful

Well-Known Member
What I don't like about supercharger combos, the motor normally has to be high in the RPM to get in full boost and get moving. With turbos you don't, it doesn't matter in what gear you're in, you just smash the gas pedal and you'll at full boost.
 

orange395w

OG MEMBER
Staff member
Sinful said:
Well I've had an s-trim v2, novi 2000, turbolocity turbo kit, hp turbo kit and cartech turbo kit. from personal experience turbo kits are better in making hp, tq, you don't need a belt from the motor to spin the turbine, they are easier on the motor under load and not many people havethem so they are typically unique.

The vortech was badass (your best tested combo) You never ran the Novi because you were scared (Blower was too big for him) and the turbos are not that unique anymore!
 

Sinful

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I never ran the Novi 2000 kit because of many reasons not related to the head unit itself but the rest of the kit sucked (Sn95 kit). The bracket flexed a lot, the belt tensioner was a joke and my motor was too small for the head unit. Not to mention all the hp and RPM required to spin that big ass head unit.

The S-trim was cool, but I always hated the fact it needed to be under the correct gear, rpm and load to get moving. I've blew more than 5 sets of head gaskets because there was small margin of errors that could be made with the motor being put under a lot of stress and psi to achive what a turbo kit could do with a lot less boost/stress.
 

Sinful

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480rwhp/tq at 4200 rpms with 10-12 psi on a 302 with small heads and holley intake is impressive. For the s-trim combo to make that kind of power on the same motor it needed over 15-17 psi and over 5000rpms. Big difference to me
 

orange395w

OG MEMBER
Staff member
Sinful said:
I never ran the Novi 2000 kit because of many reasons not related to the head unit itself but the rest of the kit sucked (Sn95 kit). The bracket flexed a lot, the belt tensioner was a joke and my motor was too small for the head unit. Not to mention all the hp and RPM required to spin that big ass head unit.

The S-trim was cool, but I always hated the fact it needed to be under the correct gear, rpm and load to get moving. I've blew more than 5 sets of head gaskets because there was small margin of errors that could be made with the motor being put under a lot of stress and psi to achive what a turbo kit could do with a lot less boost/stress.

You're full of **** about the bracket flexing because the bracket is 1/2" thick on the Novi ( maybe you should have put all of the bolts on it! Oh yeah I didn't give them 2 you LOL) and the S-trim is 3/8". The tensioner wasn't the best, but that style tensioner will have less belt slippage and it's easier on the blower bearings. You are right about it being big for a 306 though. I think you blowing head gaskets was your tune and not to mention you were trying to pump out 17psi! Not exactly conservative. I agree with you on the turbo kit, but it has to be worth the extra $2000.
 

orange395w

OG MEMBER
Staff member
I have no doubt that the turbo is more efficient and will make more power, but I think the supercharger is cheaper, easier and fits better.
 

dope3

Well-Known Member
orange395w said:
I have no doubt that the turbo is more efficient and will make more power, but I think the supercharger is cheaper, easier and fits better.

i think orange is right thats right:bo:
 

Sinful

Well-Known Member
the bracket was 1/2 thick but the cylinder inserts and bolts that went in between the two 1/2 brackets was a bad idea. not to mention the stupid allen type of bolts was bad enough to strip them if they needed to be correctly tightened. the tensioner again was a joke, it would have slipped when upgrading to bigger pullies because you could almost remove the belt by hand without tools. I also hated where the head unit sat, made it almost impossible to change plugs, check timing and it was just too close to the radiator fan (hence thas where your car got the name 4th of july).

The strim had a 3/8 bracket and it never flexed unlike the novi I could do it by hand.


You had better luck than me with the novi because you didn't need a lot of boost to achive your power goals because your motor was already stroked and had big heads. For me I needed to spin the blower a lot more because my motor was small. The novio 2000 was not upgrade friendly.


How am I full of **** when I have actually done this, have 100 % experience and not just heard or read it somewhere.




orange395w said:
You're full of **** about the bracket flexing because the bracket is 1/2" thick on the Novi ( maybe you should have put all of the bolts on it! Oh yeah I didn't give them 2 you LOL) and the S-trim is 3/8". The tensioner wasn't the best, but that style tensioner will have less belt slippage and it's easier on the blower bearings. You are right about it being big for a 306 though. I think you blowing head gaskets was your tune and not to mention you were trying to pump out 17psi! Not exactly conservative. I agree with you on the turbo kit, but it has to be worth the extra $2000.
 
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