Did you get a hold of that guy Machman? i had talked him down to 200$ but he removed the post. I think a new pair is 3 or 00$ from summit to your door. i am going to call them tommorow. Check price on them and some slicks. Most of the slicks I seen where 15's though. my stock rims are 17's I know they make drag radials for them... Maybe if we both buy some Emilio maybe ablet to get a good price on a set of 17's what do you think? I got my date set for tuesday to take my car to Extreme..