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Hope And Change: Obama Kills The Muscle Car.

Shane361

Well-Known Member
Hope And Change: Obama Kills The Muscle Car.




05-19-09: This crap is really getting old. Today the Obama administration announced a “land mark” proposal to screw the auto industry even more than ever. His “historic proposal” would raise the corporate average fuel economy to 39 mpg for cars and 27 mpg for trucks, for an average across all sold vehicles in America to 35.5 mpg by 2016.

By 2016! This oversteps the previous legislation enacted in 2007 that would have raised the CAFÉ for cars to 35 mpg by 2020. Not only has the target been set higher, but the deadline moved up by four years. One has to wonder how the automakers are going to meet this goal given they have a 3-4 year lead time on new designs. This means they have to pretty much drop everything they are working on for their very survival and shift gears to serve Obama’s new deal.

The tragedy for automotive enthusiasts here is the pure mathematics of this new proposal virtually erases any possibility that we will be writing about 500hp V8 muscle cars in five years. It erases the likelihood that you will even see commonplace high-performance V8 Mustangs for instance a decade from now.

This new proposal will force automakers to make and sell cars that get 45, 55, and 65 mpg to allow cars that get only 25, 30, and 35 mpg to even exist. This, all to make sure that the average of all cars sold meet a 39 mpg average. Think about that for a minute. Think about the brand new 2010 V6 Mustang that gets in the mid 20 mpg range, the GT and the GT-500 that gets in the low teens. These cars aren’t going to be a priority in five years. No, all of the engineering and development money from here on out will be spent on the latest greatest death-can that can meet regulations.

The costs are going up too. MPG costs money, and even the Messiah claims the new proposal will raise the cost on average for all cars about $1800. Of course we all know that it will be more. In addition, the government will be giving even more of our billions of tax dollars to the automakers to help them meet these new rules. Yep, that’s right. We haven’t bailed out the bankrupt enough yet. Let’s kick them in the teeth some more and pay their medical bills afterwards. Sounds like hope and change we can believe in.

Bottom line is that if you love cars, muscle cars your era is over. Buy them while they are still available and keep them in your garage because they will be soon a high commodity. If they still exist in the future, they wont be cheap and they wont be plentiful.

This new proposal is being sold to us by Obama as a gravely needed change in our culture to save the planet. It is being billed as a proposal that all parties have come to the table and agreed on. "In the past, an agreement such as this would have been considered impossible," said President Obama. "That is why this announcement is so important, for it represents not only a change in policy in Washington, but the harbinger of a change in the way business is done in Washington."

The reality is that the automakers had no choice in the matter. Their hand was forced, particularly with GM and Chrysler who’s testicles are effectively in Obama’s hands. Since they came running to the government for a bailout, they are now owned by the Obama mindset. They will agree to this new world order or be fired by the Messiah. Ford and other automakers had little choice to go along with the new proposal as it does do one thing they need - provides a single nationwide standard.

For years California, the paragon of Greenist Socialism, along with a dozen or so other states has been threatening to create their own patchwork of stringent standards. Such a move would have created even more uncertainty for the Big 3, having to engineer for several different state rules. If they weren’t broke and out of business now, it would surely have done the job. While they may have dodged this bullet for the time being with this new agreement, the reality is that we are all in for changes we cannot even fathom.

Elections have consequences. This freight train is headed right at us with nobody to stop it. Even if every Republican in the House and Senate had the backbone to fight it, they don’t have the weight to do it. Thanks to an ignorant electorate we now have one party in charge, the most aggressive radical collection of environmentalists, socialists, and outright Marxists have complete and unstoppable control of our country.

To all those who voted for the new Greenist Socialist Hope and Change, this proud day in America is for you. Start shopping for your new 60mpg death-can while the rest of us bask in the loss of our freedoms.
 
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Mustangcwo

Guest
Disclaimer: Before you read this, understand that I do not support our government one bit on these decisions (Libertarian)

This isn't anything new and Ford already has plans to make this happen and retain the muscle car.

1. Shelby cars do not count towards fuel mileage. Although they are sold at the dealership, it's not a FORD factory product.
2. They have already produced the ECO V6 and ECO V4; each having the power of two additional cylinders with the gas mileage of less cylinders.
3. Fusion hybrid gets 41 miles to the gallon and that's only the beginning to the hybrid line. Wait til the escort hybrid comes out. Rumor is, 60+ MPG.

No need to worry, Ford has made a life long comittment to the Mustang and it will not break the production line. Every company that has broken their muscle car chain has paid dearly for the mistake....kind of like taking TARP funds or a BAILOUT check.
 

kakarote

Well-Known Member
musle cars

Disclaimer: Before you read this, understand that I do not support our government one bit on these decisions (Libertarian)

This isn't anything new and Ford already has plans to make this happen and retain the muscle car.

1. Shelby cars do not count towards fuel mileage. Although they are sold at the dealership, it's not a FORD factory product.
2. They have already produced the ECO V6 and ECO V4; each having the power of two additional cylinders with the gas mileage of less cylinders.
3. Fusion hybrid gets 41 miles to the gallon and that's only the beginning to the hybrid line. Wait til the escort hybrid comes out. Rumor is, 60+ MPG.

No need to worry, Ford has made a life long comittment to the Mustang and it will not break the production line. Every company that has broken their muscle car chain has paid dearly for the mistake....kind of like taking TARP funds or a BAILOUT check.

true, but they can make it sooooo expensive thru taxes and regulations, that only the super rich will be able to purchase them!
 
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Mustangcwo

Guest
true, but they can make it sooooo expensive thru taxes and regulations, that only the super rich will be able to purchase them!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: How many of you had fathers that could afford the car you're driving now? Same thing was said in 1978.
 

ears

Well-Known Member
personaly, i think its all kinda f'd up,,, i really dont know too much about polatics, but how i see it is like this!!! the auto makers should make what the ppl want,,, this will obviously keep them in buisness!!! some ppl want feul economy, some want horse power, some want tow capacity, and others want leg room, cargo capacity!!! so if they want ppl to buy their cars, theyll make models to meet/exceed these expectations. so my question is, why is the government telling companies that they have to do anything?? i mean sure the companies that took the bail, but like ford,,, they did nothing, yet theyre still being told what to make!! that dont make any sence to me!!! ill buy ford regardless, bbut buy new ford,,, now that ill have to think about!!! not if the new gt has a 4 cylinder engine in it!!! and the new gt500 is more like a gt200 or somethin stupid like that!!! i want a fu*ckin muscle car, so thats what im gonna buy not some eco tree huggin bull sh*it!!! and thats how my garage will stay,,,,,unless the wife wants one!!! then thats on her shoulders!!lolololol!!! happy wife happy life!!!LOLOL!!! but as for me, ill keep my cobra, and as far as im concerned ford still has our backs even if theres nothin they can currently say or do about it!! theyll alwayse make a pony car thatll make us happy, i hope!!!
 

kakarote

Well-Known Member
It's not what the "people" want that drives the government, obviously it's what goes on behind closed door's, late night's, and weekend's when no one is looking. I thought he said (Obama) this would be a more open presidency, more honest etc..
Remember....the word "Politics's" is Greek. Poly...means more than one and Tic's are.... Blood sucking parasites.
That's what we have in all Government agencies.
It ain't Democrat or Republican, but Robber :evil:vs Thief:evil:. Which will steal more from us faster. Impeach them "ALL"....
 

IgottaV8

Wickedstangs Road Racing Team
Staff member
Moderator
Board Member
All this does is give foreing auto manufacturers more of an edge againt the domestic, now correct me if I'm wrong, but if they make their cars outside of the US, then they aren't affected by this, are they?
 

Fighting Sailor

San Angelo TX
Ford is prepared for this. They have been researching this for years and have cars on the foreign market that easily bring thier average within the precribed limits. Unfortunately GM and Chrysler have been focused on building big Heavy cars (Charger, 300, etc...) essentially they misread the market and focused on the wrong stuff. This will hurt them even more than they already are... Look at the "new" Camaro... It is a heavy car!
I don't think we are looking at a return to gutless 4 cylinder Mustangs. I believe this will cause Ford to put more emphasis on the 4.0 V6... Not a bad thing, it is a strong engine. I also think the future of the Ford V8 is secure, modern techniques for boosting Horsepower often also boost fuel efficiency i.e. cold air intakes, fuel injection.
The reaction to the oil crisis of the 1970's was disasterous for the muscle car, true... However, I truly believe that Ford learned thier lessons from that experience and I dont foresee a repeat.
 

fastsleeper

Why ya treat me like that?
Ooooooooooo

It would be so cool for alllllllllll muscle cars to drive up to 'his' house, park on the lawn and have a leetle word with the....guy. BBQ him..I mean have a BBQ and burn out the entire 'house' lawn when we leave, after a sleep over. neeneerneeneer

Then we can run over his super gas saver heilo and lighten the weight of the freakin jet and then we'll get his leetle dog too.:eviltongue:

ROAD TRIP ROAD TRIP ROAD TRIP

What's the mileage on his freakin' motorcade? What does he drive when no one is looking?

Jerk

I'm going out to fill up with super premium and drive.:bike: over a prius or four. And then 20 of those fkng freak "smart cars".

Pretty amazing to me how many of those fng little hybrids zoom around and cut me off even on the city streets as well as the freeway WHILE they are talking on their freakin' phones without a headset.

Let's invite the Monster Trucks too.:bike::bike:

And invite all the Clydesdale Horses to poop all over what's left of the lawn and the steps of 'the house' and send in 20 gaggle of geese to finish off the inside of 'the house'.

BAH!
 

02gt

Well-Known Member
i read a while ago that the new mustang down the road will be a twin turbo'd v-6...
 

ears

Well-Known Member
gaurantee that they try it and it bombs so they pull it from the market and act like it never happened!!! LOLOLOL!!!! then theyll build a bangin gt and give it like 900 hp just to make up for it!!
 
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