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Which shop for 03 engine swap

4CEFED

Well-Known Member
So everyone knows my car, I was going to just build my engine and slap a novi on it but now i am wondering if I should get a 03 motor and slap a 2.3 or even a 3.4 on it. I know there is alot involved in the swap, thats why I need to know if ther are any shops local that have any experience in the area. I am super anal about who works on my car the wiring needs to be done the right way, the swap should look factory.
 

beejay31000

BULLWINKLE
why an 03 motor.....you. i would build at 4v stroker motor and add a supercharger to that. be better than a stock 03 4v. and it might be easier. plus make much more power, and last longer. just my .02
 

maverick169v

WS Posting God
no need to stroke a supercharged motor, or put in a cobra motor. forge the bottom end of a 2v and supercharge it. to swap out for an 03 cobra motor and buy a blower for it, get ready to spend north of 10k.
 

orange395w

OG MEMBER
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So everyone knows my car, I was going to just build my engine and slap a novi on it but now i am wondering if I should get a 03 motor and slap a 2.3 or even a 3.4 on it. I know there is alot involved in the swap, thats why I need to know if ther are any shops local that have any experience in the area. I am super anal about who works on my car the wiring needs to be done the right way, the swap should look factory.

I would stick with your original plan. You won't have to worry about any wiring and things like that. I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to stroke a supercharged car? A stroker motor with a blower at the same boost level as a non-stroker motor with a blower is going to make more power and torque across the board everytime.

Happiness is being stroked and blown at the same time. I saw that on a license plate frame once and it's very true. :)
 

orange395w

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However if your heart was set on doing the 03 cobra swap I would say the only way to do it is if you were capable of doing it yourself. Reason being first off you might be hard pressed to find a shop who is even willing to do the swap let alone for a reasonable price. I have 2 friends that have done the swap in their foxbodies and they worked on them for over a year getting everything straight.

For the price of even a used cobra engine coupled with the labor for a shop and parts wouldn't be very economical. That's why I say if you really want to do it, you should do it yourself.
 

maverick169v

WS Posting God
I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to stroke a supercharged car? A stroker motor with a blower at the same boost level as a non-stroker motor with a blower is going to make more power and torque across the board everytime.

as per greg at RET, you stroke to gain displacement, which is exactly what a blower does, it simulates a larger displacement. forged/blown motors are safer than stroked/blown motors. i asked around a lot after my last pump and thats what a lot of people that new there **** had to say. its just not necessary. i agree with the stroke and blown makes more power, but you can also just run more boost on the other motor and its still less moving parts to break. just more reliable in my opinion.
 

orange395w

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as per greg at RET, you stroke to gain displacement, which is exactly what a blower does, it simulates a larger displacement. forged/blown motors are safer than stroked/blown motors. i asked around a lot after my last pump and thats what a lot of people that new there **** had to say. its just not necessary. i agree with the stroke and blown makes more power, but you can also just run more boost on the other motor and its still less moving parts to break. just more reliable in my opinion.

Less moving parts? Please explain that one. It all depends on if the engine is built right. You can make power both ways. I would like to see some hard evidence that says .......a stroker with 10psi of boost is more "dangerous" to run than a non-stroker with 20psi of boost.

A blown motor raises compression. Apparently that qualifies as a simulation of displacement?

It comes down to personal preference.

"it's not necessary"? According to who and what standard? None of this really makes much sense. Are you going off of what you wanted for your own car or do you speak for everyone?
 

orange395w

OG MEMBER
Staff member
why spend all that cash on a stroker kit, when you can buy a smaller pulley for 15 dollars?


I'm not arguing price although strokers are not much more than a stock displacement engine. I'm just saying that it depends on the person and their goals. I personally had a 302 with 10psi that made 477HP. I swapped the 302 for a 331 and made 540HP on 7-8psi. With 2 psi less it made 63hp more. That's nothing to shake a stick at.

I would have to crank the boost up on the 302 to reach that and in my eyes and experience would have been more dangerous do to higher cylinder pressures which = more HEAT.

Bottom line: like I said before it's up to him how he wants to make the power.
 

maverick169v

WS Posting God
so get a bigger blower. just saying man, stroking a mod motor is a waste of time considering how the respond to forced induction.
 

maverick169v

WS Posting God
no i get you orange, thats a 302 though, for a mod motor i dont think its cost effective but thats just me, to each his own. i do know that a stroked 2v 4.6 is looking at upper 300's at best, thats weak. im not gonna lie, im obviously partial to just relying on forced induction.
 

maverick169v

WS Posting God
200 bucks in short block, still need heads. i dont know man, like i said im partial to just sticking at 4.6 and cranking the boost.
 
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