supercharger vs turbocharger

[orange395w]

Uh, I think you have that 100% BACKWARDS!

With a turbo you can tune when your boost comes on and make sure you get the right size for your combo. I don't think David was talking about the roots style blowers, he's talking about the centrifigal style. Which has to do with a few different variables as does the turbo.

 

[Bullitt5055]

as per Superchargersonline.com

Lag
This is perhaps the biggest advantage that the supercharger enjoys over the tubo. Because a turbocharger is driven by exhaust gasses, the turbocharger's turbine must first spool up before it even begins to turn the compressor's impeller. This results in lag time which is the time needed for the turbine to reach its full throttle from an intermediate rotational speed state. During this lag time, the turbocharger is creating little to no boost, which means little to no power gains during this time. Smaller turbos spool up quicker, which eliminates some of this lag. Turbochargers thus utilize a wastegate, which allows the use of a smaller turbocharger to reduce lag while preventing it from spinning too quickly at high engine speeds. The wastegate is a valve that allows the exhaust to bypass the turbine blades. The wastegate senses boost pressure, and if it gets too high, it could be an indicator that the turbine is spinning too quickly, so the wastegate bypasses some of the exhaust around the turbine blades, allowing the blades to slow down..
A Supercharger, on the other hand, is connected directly to the crank, so there is no "lag". Superchargers are able to produce boost at a very low rpm, especially screw-type and roots type blowers.

 

[orange395w]

as per Superchargersonline.com

Lag
This is perhaps the biggest advantage that the supercharger enjoys over the tubo. Because a turbocharger is driven by exhaust gasses, the turbocharger's turbine must first spool up before it even begins to turn the compressor's impeller. This results in lag time which is the time needed for the turbine to reach its full throttle from an intermediate rotational speed state. During this lag time, the turbocharger is creating little to no boost, which means little to no power gains during this time. Smaller turbos spool up quicker, which eliminates some of this lag. Turbochargers thus utilize a wastegate, which allows the use of a smaller turbocharger to reduce lag while preventing it from spinning too quickly at high engine speeds. The wastegate is a valve that allows the exhaust to bypass the turbine blades. The wastegate senses boost pressure, and if it gets too high, it could be an indicator that the turbine is spinning too quickly, so the wastegate bypasses some of the exhaust around the turbine blades, allowing the blades to slow down..
A Supercharger, on the other hand, is connected directly to the crank, so there is no "lag". Superchargers are able to produce boost at a very low rpm, especially screw-type and roots type blowers.

That's what I said LOL!. just not in as much detail.

 

[Sinful]

as per Superchargersonline.com

Lag
This is perhaps the biggest advantage that the supercharger enjoys over the tubo. Because a turbocharger is driven by exhaust gasses, the turbocharger's turbine must first spool up before it even begins to turn the compressor's impeller. This results in lag time which is the time needed for the turbine to reach its full throttle from an intermediate rotational speed state. During this lag time, the turbocharger is creating little to no boost, which means little to no power gains during this time. Smaller turbos spool up quicker, which eliminates some of this lag. Turbochargers thus utilize a wastegate, which allows the use of a smaller turbocharger to reduce lag while preventing it from spinning too quickly at high engine speeds. The wastegate is a valve that allows the exhaust to bypass the turbine blades. The wastegate senses boost pressure, and if it gets too high, it could be an indicator that the turbine is spinning too quickly, so the wastegate bypasses some of the exhaust around the turbine blades, allowing the blades to slow down..
A Supercharger, on the other hand, is connected directly to the crank, so there is no "lag". Superchargers are able to produce boost at a very low rpm, especially screw-type and roots type blowers.

Lag is almost non existant when adding the right size turbo for a given combo.

 

[Sinful]

Uh, I think you have that 100% BACKWARDS!

Not if are talking about centrifigal style blower vs turbo

 

[Sinful]

does this sound like turbo lag

LOL

 

[Bullitt5055]

they both have pros and cons that you will need to decide from, you should be the one to choose which setup is right for your car, everyone has their own opinions

 

[Sinful]

oh this is def turbo lag against a 03-04 cobra root style blower.

perfect example too

 

[Bullitt5055]

this sounds soooo much better, but once again it's my personal preference, you might not like how it sounds over a turbo...

 

[Bullitt5055]

sounds to me like your leaning more towards turbo, which is awesome either way you go, it's your choice man, good luck in which ever direction you go...

 

[beejay31000]

as much as i like the idea of turbo, i am leaning towards staying with the s-trim. it will provide more than enough power for my application, and its easier to tune, and install.

 

[Sinful]

holy ****ing **** this is awesome !!

check it out guys

 

[Bullitt5055]

HOLY F***!! you can't even hear the car

 

[Sinful]

aah check this last vid I'm going to post.

I'm not trying to prove I'm right, it doesn't matter, I don't care. I like both, but turbos are just something else, different, insane in some combos and that's all I'm trying to say.

this is an awesome vid for those who have 03-04 cobras

 

[VP_07SRT8]

just saying all the stangs setting records these days and hitting the numbers are turbo'd stangs plus supercharger boost almost immediately thats why if oyu get your turbo tuens to spool at 3-3.5k its more streetable imo

 

[GT400SC]

aah check this last vid I'm going to post.

I'm not trying to prove I'm right, it doesn't matter, I don't care. I like both, but turbos are just something else, different, insane in some combos and that's all I'm trying to say.

this is an awesome vid for those who have 03-04 cobras

Without stating whether you were talking about roots blowers or cetrifugal, no one would have known. I have NEVER seen ANY turbo provide instantaneous boost from an un-revved stand still idle like a roots supercharger can. Having two cars with roots superchargers and a third car witha turbo, I have to say, the throttle responds much faster on the two with roots blowers.

Centrifugal is another story and I agree with you there. But I couldn't see ANYWHERE where the type of blower was mentioned.

 

[yosemiddysam]

I have more HP and Tq than the Cobra playing death games with the semi and mine dont sound like that lol.

 

[beejay31000]

roots on a fox? i know of one.

 

[VP_07SRT8]

yeah supercharger gives boost quicker but watch the vids the turbo alwaysruns them down ftw

 

[VP_07SRT8]

anything being said in here is pointless anyways both choices are bad ass and any car over 500 hp with any set up will be a force to be reckonned with. NOS, superhcarger, turbo, or even a big block with gears. to me anything that is low 11's or lower is fast imo